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Addressing Arguments Against Using John Stewart as the Cinematic Green Lantern – Part 2


on October 30, 2014

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This article is a continuation on an earlier article, titled, Addressing Arguments Against Using John Stewart as the Cinematic Green Lantern. I only addressed two arguments in that essay, and though they were some of the more regular points, there exist others that I’ve seen.

Let’s jump right in. The first argument this time is that “John Stewart doesn’t have any villains.”

This is, of course, not true. What is very interesting to me is that these arguments often come from people who profess to be knowledgeable about Green Lantern. I have reason to believe that many of them only really know the Geoff Johns run of Green Lantern, which is only a fraction of the mythology that, interestingly, more or less ignores John Stewart.

Green Lantern isn’t like most other superheroes, which is probably one of the reasons I find it the most interesting mythology. Green Lantern doesn’t need to be bound to a city, fighting the same villains over and over, like Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, and so on. Green Lantern is a cosmic defender, protecting an extremely broad and diverse universe from a wide variety of threats. In John Stewart’s adventures, he typically deals with entire hostile alien races, not a few people in a city sporting weird costumes. Though, he deals with the latter from time to time, too. A trip through John’s history will reveal such antagonists as the Horde from the “Mosaic” arc, the Manhunters, Thanagarians, and Despero and the Kalinorans from Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, and the Keepers, Third Army, Durlans, Khund, and Shadow Empire from the New 52 comic books. John Stewart has absolutely no shortage of adversaries to fight.

Indeed, when John Stewart is seen starring in comic books, he usually winds up fighting. If he has no one to fight, why is he always fighting in his stories? All enemies of the Green Lantern Corps, from the Spider Guild, the Manhunters, Durlans, Keepers, Sinestro, and so on, are, by default, enemies of Green Lantern John Stewart.

Speaking of Sinestro, a sub-argument of the above one is that “John Stewart has no connection to Sinestro and Star Sapphire. Therefore, by using John, two long time Green Lantern villains are lost.”

Actually, no they’re not, because we’ve seen both Sinestro and Star Sapphire done with John Stewart and without Hal Jordan in Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, and Static Shock. The explanations we are given about Sinestro in Static Shock and Justice League are very faithful to the comic books. Sinestro is an enemy of the Green Lantern Corps and hates all Green Lanterns. John Stewart helped take him down. Does this dishonor the comic books? Not at all. In comics, Sinestro is an enemy of the Corps and John has helped defeat him more than once.

Regarding Star Sapphire, both she and John Stewart have an extensive history together. Ferris Aircraft is not even lost if Hal Jordan is removed from the story, because John worked for Carol Ferris just like Hal Jordan did. In comics, John was an architect flown in from Detroit to California to help with the rebuilding of the Ferris Air grounds after the Demolition Team wrecked them. Star Sapphire killed John Stewart’s wife, Katma Tui, so she was actually John Stewart’s most hated enemy at a time. Speaking of Katma Tui, she was Sinestro’s direct successor, so there is a huge connection that could easily be exploited.

I think it’s really weird that some people act as though John Stewart has basically no connection to the Green Lantern mythology when he has been in the comics for over forty years. Some paint a picture to where it would seem John has spent that entire time locked in a dark closet.

Another argument I’ve seen is that “The Green Lantern mythology revolves around Hal Jordan. Thus, Green Lantern cannot be done without Hal Jordan.”

This, again, is not true at all, because we’ve seen Green Lantern done without Hal Jordan on Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, and it was wildly successful. Well, to be fair, Hal Jordan appeared with an extremely brief cameo that was explained away as being caused by a time paradox, which had no bearing on the plot, whatsoever. Hal Jordan, more or less, didn’t exist in that universe and that was the most successful thing that any incarnation of Green Lantern has EVER BEEN A PART OF. So, yes, Green Lantern can, and has, been done without Hal Jordan to great success. It’s been proven.

Remember, Green Lantern doesn’t work like most superheroes, so it is useless and incorrect to hold him to the same principles other heroes abide by. Green Lantern does not depend on any one character the way Batman, Spider-Man, and Superman do. The core of Green Lantern is the power ring, the Guardians of the Universe, and the Green Lantern Corps. As long as those concepts are present in some fashion, a Green Lantern story can easily be told. The different characters add different takes and perspectives to the mythology, but by no means is the entire mythology contingent on any one protagonist. I stress again that Green Lantern technically cannot entirely revolve around Hal Jordan, because we’ve seen Green Lantern done completely without him. There is a whole rich world there to be explored, which doesn’t at all rely on the Hal Jordan character.

Another argument is that “By not using Hal Jordan, you lose all his relationships.”

And to that, I say, “So what?”
I have personally never found Hal Jordan’s relationships with Tom Kalmaku, Carol Ferris, Green Arrow, Barry Allen, or whoever else especially riveting. Audiences got a taste of Hal Jordan’s relationships in the 2011 Green Lantern movie, and they failed to impress.

With John Stewart, there is potential to bring other relationships to the screen, such as his romance with Hawkgirl. Geek elitists will no doubt argue that the Green Lantern/Hawkgirl romance is not “Green Lantern,” but taken from the Justice League cartoon, which, by some bizarre twisted logic, invalidates the whole thing.

This is what those people need to understand:
NO ONE BUT THEM CARES ABOUT THAT SEMANTIC. Green Lantern and Hawkgirl’s romance is a famous, beloved story, even more so than Hal Jordan and Carol Ferris. Audiences don’t care that it didn’t originate from the comic books, or that it didn’t originate in something branded “Green Lantern.” Comic book nerds need to let go of this geeky elitism, because it serves absolutely no purpose other than to turn away potential fans from the hobby and to perpetuate the anal, basement dwelling image that comic book fans have.

The fact of the matter is that the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited cartoons have a much, much larger impact than any of Hal Jordan’s comics, and to continue to shun them out of misguided, misplaced elitism is the biggest, most unnecessary folly that can be committed regarding these issues. It’s because of that closed minded mindset that we wound up with the 200 million dollar flop that was the 2011 Green Lantern movie, which presented a familiar name to audiences, with an unfamiliar setting and unfamiliar character that they did not respond well to at all. There were many “regular people” who knew the name Green Lantern, but only intense comic book geeks had any knowledge or appreciation for the name “Hal Jordan.”

The reality of the situation is that no one cares about geeky Green Lantern history aside from hardcore Green Lantern fans, which is a relatively small group of people. No one cares that Hal Jordan came first, or about Carol Ferris. They don’t even know Kyle Rayner and Guy Gardner exist. When you tell this to these elitist fans, they act as though you are denigrating their religion, but it is actually just common sense and reality. Despite the success of Geoff Johns’ Green Lantern comics, the pool of comic book readers just isn’t all that big. In other words, Geoff Johns and Hal Jordan are big fish in really little ponds.

All these “regular people” care about is what they know and like, and where Green Lantern is concerned, for many people, that is the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited cartoons. Those cartoons have had a very far ranging impact that the comic books just can’t compete with, and they’re universally acclaimed and loved. The people at DC Comics and the elitist nerd fans need to just accept this reality instead of trying their darndest to deny it. I have a feeling that Warner Bros. realizes this truth, especially after the 200 million dollar disaster that was the 2011 Green Lantern film.

Hopefully this article will provide food for thought for readers, and also make things easier for John Stewart fans when confronted by stubborn and deluded fans of Hal Jordan.



  • Hudson Faber

    Thanks for putting together another thorough reply article, Desh! John Stewart is the most sensible choice, so WB not using John would be an indication of them lacking sense. I hope that’s not the case. Marvel Studios is making all the right moves right now–I hope WB does as well. Announcing John as their Green Lantern choice would only enhance my confidence in their upcoming projects.

    I love the image you used by the way. The colors really pop!

    • Desh Derringer

      Thanks a lot again for reading! I really appreciate the posts, too.

  • Steve Rogers

    I enjoyed this read. Good job.

    Am I the only one that notice when I type in Green Lantern in the google search engine, it shows John Stewart in the images. Also it says “black” and “John Stewart” on the images options tab and Hal Jordan’s name is missing in the tab. WTF!!?

    • Desh Derringer

      I saw that, too. And John is, like, the fourth image, only behind some GL movie images. And thanks for reading, Steve!

      • Steve Rogers

        Yea it’s impressive. I’ve been lurking around different websites and Hal fans uses the argument about “although the movie flopped, Hal Jordan is now more popular than John, because he got more exposure to a wider audience.” It’s funny after all of his exposure in that terrible film, Hal Jordan’s name is missing in the google images bar lol.

        • Desh Derringer

          That’s a very silly argument. Character awareness does not equal character equity. Being known as the lead character in one of the movie industry’s biggest bombs does not do Hal Jordan any good.

  • Hudson Faber

    To add to the need to use Hal counter:

    Marvel Studios is using the 2nd Ant-Man and the 7th Captain Marvel as the definitive version of those characters.

  • Clyde

    So where should I start this time? Well perhaps with my most immediate thoughts. There’s no question which Lantern should be used in the reboot in 2020, so let’s talk about the sequel to that. I’d like DC/Warner Bros. to show the Lantern corps. and to show off John’s leadership skills there. I’d also really like for them to introduce the planet Thanagar into the mix so that they could introduce Shayera Hol / Hawkgirl into the equation for the GL reboot sequel. Perhaps they could have the GL corps. and the Thanagarians be at odds with each other and then they could show a sort of Romeo & Juliet romance between John and Shayera, and of course for the conflict portion, Hawkman would have a big problem with John & Shayera having a secret love affair since Shayera is promised to him in that world and Shayera wants the right to choose her own life partner. And in the climax of the film, their union would bring peace between the factions. Damn that sounds cheesy, almost like a romance novel. Chicks would love it and the comic fans would hate it…especially since Hal wouldn’t be starring in it. lol.

    Desh, I really think that you nailed it on the head with this latest article. You stated things that I thought about and you eloquently put it into words that is informative and non-offensive. These people make Hal like he’s the second coming of christ within the corps. and yet the corps. has been around before him and got along just fine without him. You are so right. When it comes down to certain characters, you have to stick with the main character, like Bruce Wayne= Batman. Clark Kent = Superman, Diana Prince = Wonder Woman, Arthur Curry= Aquaman. But with the Flash they could use one of the three incarnations…and for GL they could use one of 7200. So why does it always have to be Hal? DC/Warner sees two different opinions. Warner sees the opinions of the masses and wants to please them in order to make a profit. DC only cares about pleasing the executives as well the Hal Jordan groupies by airing Hal anywhere and everywhere, regardless of how badly its failing in overall profits. The Hal Jordan fans don’t know this yet, but the sands of time bare has any sand left for Hal. I don’t hate the character…he’s just not good for business. Lastly, with Chadwick Boseman being Black Panther…who else would be in contention?

    • Desh Derringer

      I really like your idea for how a Green Lantern/Hawkgirl story can work on the big screen. It sounds perfect. Some comic fans would hate it, no doubt, but when there’s such a conflict of interests between what comic fans want, and what general people know, who is it smarter to appease? The general audience, of course, since there are so many more people there, and they’re the ones who will make or break the movie, not comic fans..

      For many of them, Green Lantern is John Stewart and his romance partner is Hawkgirl. That’s the story they know, and it’s very loved. So much so, that it just doesn’t make sense to me to act like it ONLY belongs in one incarnation of the DC Universe. The smarter move would be to bring elements of the popular toons into the comics so as not to alienate potential fans of the toons. As a fan of JL/JLU, and of John Stewart in particular, I can tell you that I have often found the comics to be extremely alienating. Not the Van Jensen ones, but specifically the ones during the Geoff Johns years. The only reason I have stuck with DC Comics despite that, is because I love the John Stewart character THAT MUCH. Most people, however, will turn away the minute they see the comics (or movies) are absolutely nothing like what they came to enjoy on television.

      I’m glad you liked the article. I’ll probably continue this series.

      • Will Pray

        First off i agree and enjoyed this article but i still have this to say katma was alive in the JLA&JLU shows and although that still worked everything that makes john the character we know and love had to die which means it’s not the john we want to see in the mosaic it’s not the xanshi regretful john that we need and it’s not the architect we need you said that the story doesn’t have one main protagonist and this is loosely true they are all the mains they are just interchangeable or are more useful as a group because they all help each other make the big picture what is sad is that the mythology was already disregarded when the mosaic was over from then on it was what the company wanted and this is what i want to be thought about john+hawk-girl=strong john/faulty story/faulty history john+katma= a john anyone can relate to/a mind blowing revelation that even you have missed about john that is in the mosaic giving him a strong history a strong story and a even brighter future what i’m saying is that the reason they tried to kill him was because we are asking for them to if that’s not true then what happens to john when they go to the future and war hawk explains the JLU was destroyed and we lost a lot of good people that day??? Who does he mean why was it important for him to tell john that i like the show story to but if we take on we loose a lot of the other and it is not proportionate to what we the fans want for the character don’t believe me then where is the hawkgirl/warhawk mention on this site??

        • Desh Derringer

          “everything that makes john the character we know and love had to die which means it’s not the john we want to see in the mosaic it’s not the xanshi regretful john that we need and it’s not the architect we need”

          Not everything. John can be an architect and a Marine, as the comics show nowadays. But there was a lot of mishandling of the John Stewart character in comics, and the cartoon show just left all the crap behind. Some of that crap John is STILL dealing with. In the show, John never failed to save a world. Katma never died. John never went insane. And so on. All that baggage was left at the door.

          Much of that baggage was due to writers not really caring about the character. Whenever they needed drama and angst, they just tortured the Black Green Lantern, because the White one needed to be left pristine… that is, until Emerald Twilight.

          “don’t believe me then where is the hawkgirl/warhawk mention on this site??”

          Well, for one, I mentioned Hawkgirl in the above article. I mention her often, actually. She’s even in the banner at the top of the page. There is a lot to write about, and I’m only one person. I have written a lot about Hawkgirl that I have not posted yet. It will be up soon, hopefully. As for Warhawk, I simply haven’t gotten around to him yet. Again, I’m only one person, and new stuff regarding John Stewart is always coming out (thankfully), and I give precedence to the new stuff, because it’s news. I will eventually get around to writing about Warhawk.

          • Will Pray

            “Much of that baggage was due to writers not really caring about the character. Whenever they needed drama and angst, they just tortured the Black Green Lantern, because the White one needed to be left pristine… that is, until Emerald Twilight.”

            and Gerard Jones took all of that and made the Mosaic which you said this about “the pages of Mosaic may be the greatest the Green Lantern franchise has ever known”. My point is this we got that because he didn’t try to change the character he didn’t try to rectify past writers mistakes he build upon them he in a sense filled in the missing pieces to make it less racially bias and gave us the first mortal guardian and it wasn’t because he had to go on some-kind of long space soul searching journey it came to him it showed him that he had it all along and even the immortals knew it I mean he stopped a planet destroying mega-bomb even superman needs help to stop that. and on that note i like how in this reply you said that your only one man you don’t have to be this site AAAmazing and i’d help i’m just as passionate. and i like how you skipped over how i said they killed john in JLU and i will say thats just my opinion but it’s a good one and if you do the the hawk to the character page note that in the header too

          • Desh Derringer

            “and i like how you skipped over how i said they killed john in JLU and i will say thats just my opinion but it’s a good one”

            If I skipped over something you said, it was probably because I couldn’t quite understand what you were trying to convey, and decided not to address it because of that. I’m not sure if English is your native language, but periods and commas would help in getting points across clearer. No offense is intended with that. I’d just like to engage in discussion easier.

            They killed John in JLU? I’m guessing you mean that they ruined his character because they didn’t make him exactly like the comic book version?

            Well, yeah, that’s an opinion, and if that’s your’s, I see where you’re coming from with that. Other people, however, myself included, like his depiction in JL/JLU. I think what the writers/producers did in JL/JLU was for the best. John’s history is so… I don’t want to say tangled, but it has a lot of valleys and peaks. Meaning high points and low points. It really didn’t lend itself to JL/JLU’s style of storytelling.

            One would have to tell the story of why he became the way he was in Mosaic, including Katma’s death, failing to save Xanshi, and all that stuff. For the cartoon, it was probably better to start with a cleaner slate and mold the character their own way, while still keeping some key traits from the comics.

            I agree Gerard Jones made the best of a bad situation, and amazingly wound up telling one of the greatest Green Lantern stories because of it.That is to his credit as an incredible writer. That said, I don’t like everything that happened in John’s comic history.

            I don’t like that Katma was suddenly killed in a random, throw away issue of Action Comics Weekly. I don’t like that John encouraged Hal Jordan to steal diamonds from a mine, and then wound up getting blamed for the crime Jordan committed. I don’t like that John wound up getting stripped naked and whipped by police in an African nation, and then assisted terrorists in that same nation. I don’t like that he was written way out of character and failed to save Xanshi because of his arrogance. I don’t like that he got his back broken and became a magical negro to Kyle Rayner. I don’t like that he moped about Xanshi for years and years despite having already gotten over it.

            The show left all of that alone, and it was better that way. All of that stuff happened to John Stewart because the writers didn’t value him.

            “hawk to the character page note that in the header too”

            I will add to the character pages, and the Hawks will be there. I haven’t updated the other parts of the site much, because I’ve been concentrating a lot of effort on a MASSIVE article about the Justice League cartoon for the “Essential Reading + Viewing” part of the site. In my Word Processor it is literally about 85 pages, with single spaces. It will be up soon. Once that is done, I will add to the other parts of the site, and include Hawkgirl and co. to the characters pages.

          • Will Pray

            No offense taken my first job is at home(with Kids) and so i don’t have time to proof/grammar check what i write most of the time because they take attention away from what i really want to say and it cause me to take unnecessary short cuts period(lol). but i will try harder in the future so we can communicate in the proper fashion(English is my first language).And what i am saying is that the league in the future (Batbeyond,Static,Warhawk etc.) mention that the present day league suffers some great loses when the watchtower is destroyed. Warhawk is foreshadowing the loss of john before it happened it’s the way he looks at him that makes me think this at all (he tells wonder women flat-out)you’ve mentioned this episode so i know that you say this to and maybe didn’t consider it but it happens soo!! and i feel the same about what you are saying above i just don’t want you to be so caught up in the show that you don’t see they actually killed him in their story to.

          • Will Pray

            p.s. i feel the same way about this. “Katma was suddenly killed in a random, throw away issue of Action Comics Weekly. I don’t like that John encouraged Hal Jordan to steal diamonds from a mine, and then wound up getting blamed for the crime Jordan committed. I don’t like that John wound up getting stripped naked and whipped by police in an African nation, and then assisted terrorists in that same nation. I don’t like that he was written way out of character and failed to save Xanshi because of his arrogance. I don’t like that he got his back broken and became a magical negro to Kyle Rayner. I don’t like that he moped about Xanshi for years and years despite having already gotten over it.”

            I’m a black man and at the time i was not even born when this was written but when i saw this i was hurt to my core because like you i feel it portrays an opinion of a race and not just one man. but i knew/know that if i work hard enough i can change it.

          • Desh Derringer

            “I’m a black man and at the time i was not even born when this was written but when i saw this i was hurt to my core because like you i feel it portrays an opinion of a race and not just one man. but i knew/know that if i work hard enough i can change it.”

            That’s certainly a good attitude to have. And I agree with you about the portrayal of Black characters. Comics have often blundered with the portrayal of Black characters, which is ridiculous, if you ask me. All the writers have to do to get it right is more or less write the Black characters like they write the White characters.

            Rather, what we often see are Black characters used as objects for awkward commentaries on racial issues (like the Apartheid story John Stewart was in), or Black characters used as punching bags for the writers (Cosmic Odyssey), or as objects to prop up White characters (John Stewart in many Green Lantern comics).

            All the writers need to do is pay Black characters the same respect they pay to characters like Superman and Batman, and write stories with them as heroes. Not just bring them out when they feel like making hamfisted commentaries on race, or as stooges who fail or stand in the shadow of White characters.

            Van Jensen is doing a surprisingly great job of writing John Stewart in Green Lantern Corps. I’d say it is the best writing John has had in comics.

          • Desh Derringer

            John never died in the show. What we see in “The Once and Future Thing” is a future that won’t happen. Batman and Green Lantern prevented that future when Batman forced Cronos (the villain) into a continuous time loop. So, by the end of the episode, Cronos never polluted the time stream.

            Note: This doesn’t mean that Warhawk and Batman Beyond won’t happen. It just means that the events of “The Once and Future Thing Part 2” won’t happen.

            I hope that makes sense.

          • Steve Rogers

            “I’ve been concentrating a lot of effort on a MASSIVE article about the
            Justice League cartoon for the “Essential Reading + Viewing” part of the
            site. In my Word Processor it is literally about 85 pages, with single
            spaces. It will be up soon. Once that is done, I will add to the other
            parts of the site, and include Hawkgirl and co. to the characters pages.”

            Sounds really promising. I’m definitely looking forward to it!

          • Desh Derringer

            Glad to hear it. Hopefully it will be up soon. It’s almost finished. I’ve been working on it for months.

  • Steve Rogers

    I’ve been seeing recent comments about readers would like to see John Stewart being the main green lantern in Green Lantern Earth One. So I decided to search for it and IGN mentioned they would like to see the general audience to read a standalone GL: Earth One story featuring John Stewart and Kyle Rayner, due to the failure of the film. It’s an interesting article.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/24/what-we-want-next-in-dcs-earth-one-graphic-novels

  • Steve Rogers

    Comicvine released a new preview for the latest issue of the Green Lantern Corps.

    Here’s the link: http://www.comicvine.com/articles/exclusive-preview-green-lantern-corps-36-godhead/1100-150344/

  • anonsaga

    You can bet that the arguments found online about why Hal should be used instead of John (or why John can’t work in a solo feature without first introducing Hal) are the same ones being made by executives in Hollywood. For that reason, I’m glad you’ve addressed these arguments clearly and with detail because you are showing how it can be done and how anyone who is really invested in the character would go about doing it. For instance, I liked the connection you described between Green Lantern John Stewart, his wife/fellow Lantern Katma Tui, Star Sapphire Carol Ferris, and her mentor, Sinestro. I never really thought about it that way and I’m sure there are plenty of others that never put it together like that either. And, quite frankly, I actually think some of the relationship dynamics you’ve described might be more interesting than yet another rehash of the student vs. teacher plot. Even when it is done well, as was the case in that animated feature, Training Day in Space aka Green Lantern: First Flight, we’ve seen it a million +1 times before.

    I remember one charge that was levied against John Stewart’s supposedly undeserved popularity was that John was given some of Hal’s relationships and history in the JL/JLU animated series. If Hollywood execs use common sense and finally make John Stewart their cinematic Green Lantern, I would hate to see Hal’s character, relationships and stories re-written as John’s. While I am a John Stewart fan, I think it would be incredibly disrespectful to Hal Jordan’s fans. Furthermore, it’s unnecessary since, as you pointed out, John Stewart is a great character and has more than enough great relationships and stories of his own.

    Really, all these nonsense arguments about why John shouldn’t/can’t be used is just like that Aesop about the Wolf and the Lamb. When someone is bound and determined to say no to you, any excuse, no matter how ridiculous, will do.

    • Desh Derringer

      Great post. The only story in JL/JLU that John was given that was inspired by a Hal Jordan story was the aspect of John being put on cosmic trial in the “In Blackest Night” episode. But the creators offset that by adding in an element of John’s history – supposedly destroying a planet.

      There was also the Static Shock episode when Sinestro pretended to be John. I believe a similar scenario happened in the comics, except Sinestro pretended to be Jordan. Other than those rather minor instances, I don’t see how John Stewart aped Hal Jordan’s relationships, stories, or character.

      He was NOTHING like Hal Jordan in the cartoons. The creators made up his personality and background near from scratch. He wasn’t Carol Ferris’ boyfriend, he wasn’t Tom Kalmaku’s best friend, he didn’t go on a road trip with Green Arrow, he never became Parallax, and so on. He was friends with a Flash, but that isn’t something exclusive to Hal Jordan. Green Lanterns and Flashes have a long history of being buddies.

      If the creators borrowed rather minor aspects from Hal Jordan, it was likely because John Stewart wasn’t focused on as much in the source material as he could have been, which goes into comic book companies ignoring and mistreating Black characters; something the cartoons did not do. Had the comics actually developed the Black Green Lantern more fully, then there would be no need to poach anything. The problem, ultimately, always goes back to racism. Something that we, in 2014, should strive to keep out of our societies, and I think most people in the audience are ready for that. They’re ready to embrace a Black Green Lantern. They ALREADY HAVE!

      • anonsaga

        Agreed. On the whole, I didn’t find the charge legitimate. Nevertheless, it was levied.

        I mentioned it because it would be unfortunate if it ‘did’ happen because this kind of thing has precedent. If I’m not mistaken, the JL/JLU Wally West has quite a bit of Barry Allen’s backstory.

  • DarthYan

    You’re begin pretty arrogant and straw manning; just because the screenplay didn’t work well doesn’t mean Hal’s elements didn’t have potential. Also there’s the fact that Hal was Sinestro’s student and the person who took him down. Sinestro hates the green lanterns but hal has a special place of hatred.

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